“However, not every part of the world is overpopulated and there is no way to ‘even that out’.”

Yes there is, Anja – it’s called migration. National borders are becoming more permeable, so people can move from one country to another to “even out” any population imbalance. Being in mind that some countries’ populations are still exploding (like China, India and other developing nations), other nations need to slow down to balance out. And slowly, with luck, the human population on this planet will decline to more sustainable levels.

I’m fully with Diana on this one.

Diana, I do get your point about overpopulation and limited ressources. However, not every part of the world is overpopulated and there is no way to ‘even that out’. I`m now living in Canada, but I am from Germany and there we have the problem that the population is aging and not enbough babies are born. I`m not sure about the situation in North America.

wow, this is an interesting discussion – and for the most part I can see nearly everyone’s point of view.

I’m in a fairly similar position to Charlotte in that my Partner and I are going to wait to get married. Marriage is important to us but when we found out I was pregnant we didn’t want to a) be a pregnant bride and b) have people think it was a shotgun wedding. So we made the decision to postpone.

Because we want our children to be close in age we don’t plan to get married anytime soon. Like Charlotte I want a large family but would like to make it clear that I am not being naive I had a very difficult labour and my son had some health issues, this last year has been very hard but he is worth every second of it and it will not put me off having more.

Our relationship is probably more stable than most of my married friends’ so I don’t see the point in getting married for the sake of it – I’d rather wait untill we can make the most of it and celebrate it properly like it should be celebrated.

I wish Charlotte, Gavin, Ruby and the many children to come the very best. It really doesn’t matter which way round it happens as long as they’re happy.

Yknow, with all the guff Diana is getting, she could have been really nasty with her comment. It IS possible to debate without taking personal offence to everything written here.

And maybe she would say it to Charlotte (and whoever else’s) face. This new and constant “How dare you, would you say that to their face thing” is getting old. CBB put that down as a guideline and I doubt they’d post the comment if it was truly that horrible.

Ok, I see everyone is focused on the word “selfish” but not one person has mentioned the environmental impacts. Clearly this subject is too taboo to discuss here.

I’ll stand my ground that having eight children in the 21st century is ridiculous. We aren’t living in Little House on the Prairie anymore. There are 6,704,845,726 people on the planet. By the year 2042, the world’s population will reach 9 billion.

i think what she means is that she isnt happy with her body right now, and that she would prefer to have her babies, then focus on getting back to health so she can look great for her wedding. i commmend her for just coming out with it and saying she doesnt wanna get married yet, i think thats better than getting married 8.5 months pregnant… the kid will already know its a bastard.

I have no issue with not feeling the need to get a piece of paper (married), BUT she’s been very vocal about wanting to be married, but her boyfriend isn’t ready for it. If he’s “not ready”, meaning it’s not that it’s just something he doesn’t care about, but that he’s really not ready, what makes them ready for children?

Diana- Since you think Charlotte and Gavin are selfish for wanting more than two biological kids, do you also think Heidi Klum and Seal are selfish (they have three biological kids, and have talked about possibly having a fourth)? How about the Jolie-Pitts (they will soon have three biological kids. And, I might add, it’s not entirely by choice in their case as they are currently expecting twins)? Are they selfish, too?

I suppose you think that my dad’s parents (who had three kids) were selfish as well (they both died several years ago). I don’t know for sure about Hedi and Seal or Angie and Brad, but I do know that one thing my dad’s parents were not was selfish.

Diana,

Thankfully I will abide by the rules and NOT say what I want to say because it might come off as a bit rude..

So, I sit here not saying anything at all…..