I love Tori but I have to agree with Allie. She never really seems to hold Liam. And I don’t mean when she got pregnant. Before that..on her reality show she held her dog more than him. Whatever..I love her to death.

Please look at these two previous post, pictures of jack and reasons why tori isn’t holding liam.

http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/03/tori-spelling-3.html

http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/05/tori-spelling-o.html

“I didn’t anticipate how hard it would be physically—having a 14-month old and being very pregnant. And I know there are a lot of single moms out there, God bless them! But I can barely carry Liam. I’m really exhausted, and working a lot. So having Dean there by my side, he’s my strength. He’s my rock. When Liam wakes up at 5 in the morning, I’m thinking, ‘Oh my God…’ And before I can even put a foot out of the bed, Dean is up. He’s got the bottle in one hand, the diaper in the other. And I just think, ‘Oh, I love you!”

LisaB- Very good point! Seeing these comments about Tori not holding Liam makes me sincerely hope that the “Angie doesn’t love Shiloh” and “Angie never holds Shiloh” comments don’t make a come-back once we start seeing the J-Ps out in public again (or even in the twins’ introductory photoshoot, for that matter). Obviously she will not be able to hold Shiloh for awhile (I’m guessing that with twins, you are usually advised to wait even longer than six weeks before lifting anything heavier than the babies). However, I can’t see the tabs accepting that, unfourtnately.

Getting back to Tori, Dean, and Liam: We really don’t know what the situation was with Dean and Lola. For all we know, it was Dean’s ex-wife who decided to remove his name from the adoption papers. Also, I never see anyone criticizing Billy Bob for “skipping out” on Maddox. Why the double-standard?

I don’t have a problem with how Dean and Tori got together. If you are unhappy in your marriage, you should not stay married whether your wife is pregnant or not. What is the point in that? Liam is getting so big. I love his hair for some reason.

For those of you who don’t/can’t watch their show, on this week’s episode Dean was in TEARS about the fact that he doesn’t get to have more time with Jack because Jack lives in Canada. He told Tori that he didn’t feel like a good father because he couldn’t be there for Jack the way he wanted to be and she encouraged him to call and talk to Jack, even though it was a bit early in the morning.

I understand that people judge Tori and Dean for how they came together and that they blame Dean for his relationship with Jack because if he and Tori hadn’t of gotten together, he’d still be able to have lots of time with his son, but think of it this way. You don’t get to choose who you love. Any of you who are married and madly in love with your spouses, could you imagine not having them in your life? Could you imagine settling for someone you didn’t love as much knowing that an amazing love was out there?

I hope we get to see Stella soon!

The only problem I have with Dean is that he more or less skipped out on the baby girl he was adopting. He made a commitment to that baby and he backed out, and in my eyes that’s as bad as leaving a woman while she is pregnant with your child.

Anyway! The past is the past. He’s obviously a good little daddy now and I wish them all the best.

OMG, here we go again. Anti Dean posts. NOBODY really knows the deal with the daughter that they were adopting together. He loves his son Jack and to say otherwise is just being picky. How many of the people on here live in Tori and Dean’s bed? Okay then..so none of you are qualified to pass judgment.

I like this family and Liam is s cutie. Tori is hilarious and accurate on her reality show and Dean is a typical man.

As far as Tori not holding Liam..DID YA SEE HER BEFORE SHE GAVE BIRTH? I’m impressed that she could sit on the floor still. She was beautiful, but HUGE. And c-sections are tough. Even if you have had one previously, have one at 35 and you will find a whole different healing process. I know, I had one at 22 and 35 and when I was 22 I was up and about quicker then this last time. I felt like I had been hit by a bus.

Kelly- I was asking a question. big deal.
Ella- thanks for info. I don’t remember that pic, and I don’t have cable to see reality show, so I wasn’t sure what the situation was, how often that child is here, or with them.
Lillith – I actually read that Dean does not have any legal rights to the daughter. My understanding was that he asked to be absolved of any responsibility, and asked that the daughter they originally adopted together, right before the split, not be considered his child. I guess kinda similar to the agreement that happened with Angelina and Billy Bob with Maddox.

Wow, I can’t believe how big he has gotten, and how much older he looks! It seems like yesterday the pictures we saw of him he still looked like a baby. It is amazing how fast they grow! Can’t wait to see this family out and about with Stella!

Kelly, Dean has also a daughter with his first wife, named Lola. They were in the process of adopting when Tori crossed his path and now he doesn’t seem to be involved with her anymore, which i find really sad. So Levi was right with her comment, that he isn’t seeing his other children that often.