Comments on: Ingo Rademacher Talks Names, Labor, Vaccines and Breast Milk http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/ Celebrating the lifestyle of Hollywood's newest moms and littlest stars. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:55:44 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: phoebe http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-205061 phoebe Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:10:50 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-205061 What bothers me most about the vaccine issue is the reason that our government (UK) seem to have as to why they don't offer single vaccines instead of the combination. Because we have a vaccine damaged child in our family, the younger siblings were not given the vaccines that caused the trouble. When the time came for little sister to have the MMR, her mum and dad were 100% adament she would not be having it because of the problems the family had already suffered. Luckily, we have a family friend who is a private GP and he was happy to see the family and arrange for the separate vaccines to be given. When he was asked as to why they were not offered more regularly (as in if parents fear the MMR, why not give the single vaccines to ensure the kids are protected, since it is the combination that parents are opposed to), he told our family that the reason most often given was because the children would be vulnerable between vaccines, and they may not return for the second and third vaccines, months apart. But then he said that the ultimate motivating factor for not offering the vaccines seperately was cost, that the MMR was cheaper. I just found it desperately sad that my family and others like us, who have obviously had a history of problems with vaccinations, still have to pay privately for single vaccinations just because the government thinks it is more cost effective to risk a second child's health. Don't get me wrong, we are prepared to pay, but we are taxpayers anyway, we don't claim benefits, and we make our contributions to the NHS for things like this. Like I said before, I'm still not completely sure where I stand on the issue, but I don't like the attitude of the health department towards them. If we say no to vaccines, we get bullied by authorities. No matter what the hype and opinions on vaccines are, they are supposed to be a choice. It doesn't feel like that sometimes. What bothers me most about the vaccine issue is the reason that our government (UK) seem to have as to why they don’t offer single vaccines instead of the combination. Because we have a vaccine damaged child in our family, the younger siblings were not given the vaccines that caused the trouble. When the time came for little sister to have the MMR, her mum and dad were 100% adament she would not be having it because of the problems the family had already suffered. Luckily, we have a family friend who is a private GP and he was happy to see the family and arrange for the separate vaccines to be given. When he was asked as to why they were not offered more regularly (as in if parents fear the MMR, why not give the single vaccines to ensure the kids are protected, since it is the combination that parents are opposed to), he told our family that the reason most often given was because the children would be vulnerable between vaccines, and they may not return for the second and third vaccines, months apart. But then he said that the ultimate motivating factor for not offering the vaccines seperately was cost, that the MMR was cheaper. I just found it desperately sad that my family and others like us, who have obviously had a history of problems with vaccinations, still have to pay privately for single vaccinations just because the government thinks it is more cost effective to risk a second child’s health. Don’t get me wrong, we are prepared to pay, but we are taxpayers anyway, we don’t claim benefits, and we make our contributions to the NHS for things like this. Like I said before, I’m still not completely sure where I stand on the issue, but I don’t like the attitude of the health department towards them. If we say no to vaccines, we get bullied by authorities. No matter what the hype and opinions on vaccines are, they are supposed to be a choice. It doesn’t feel like that sometimes.

]]> By: Kitty-Cat http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-204863 Kitty-Cat Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:29:02 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-204863 As someone who is undecided on the vaccine issue, I wonder how the numbers stack up on vaccine injury compared to injuries and deaths caused by the diseases (now thankfully rare) they prevent. My understanding of herd immunity is that the large percentage of immune people prevent the small unprotected population by preventing isolated cases from spreading. At what point does this system break down? In my city (Milwaukee), mumps and measles outbreaks are becoming more common, because of the (relatively) large percentage of lower income families who didn't have their children vaccinated. Someone I know (a vaccinated adult who's immunity had waned over the years) caught mumps and is now sterile. Also, while the vast majority of healthy children who catch mumps, measles, german measles, whooping cough, chicken pox, or diptheria recover (still leaving a sizable number in a country of millions), not all people who get these diseases are healthy, or children. What about the pregnant mother who picks her child up from school, and gets chicken pox from one of the other children? Her fetus could suffer from severe physical and neurological birth defects. The same is true for german measles. What about the elderly, immunocompromised or newborn? Not everybody wants or is able to isolate themselves and their families from the larger population. So, statistically, at least, I think it still makes sense for doctors and the CDC to push vaccines for children. That said, it is obvious that many people have been injured by vaccinations, and that they do pose a danger for some members of the population. My opinion is that vaccines should be required for virtually all school age children, but that they should also be studied more, reformulated for safety, and that timelines for immunizations should be revisited. I should note that I am not a doctor, chemist, statistician, or immunologist, so in terms of public safety, this entire rant is essentially meaningless. As someone who is undecided on the vaccine issue, I wonder how the numbers stack up on vaccine injury compared to injuries and deaths caused by the diseases (now thankfully rare) they prevent. My understanding of herd immunity is that the large percentage of immune people prevent the small unprotected population by preventing isolated cases from spreading. At what point does this system break down? In my city (Milwaukee), mumps and measles outbreaks are becoming more common, because of the (relatively) large percentage of lower income families who didn’t have their children vaccinated. Someone I know (a vaccinated adult who’s immunity had waned over the years) caught mumps and is now sterile. Also, while the vast majority of healthy children who catch mumps, measles, german measles, whooping cough, chicken pox, or diptheria recover (still leaving a sizable number in a country of millions), not all people who get these diseases are healthy, or children. What about the pregnant mother who picks her child up from school, and gets chicken pox from one of the other children? Her fetus could suffer from severe physical and neurological birth defects. The same is true for german measles. What about the elderly, immunocompromised or newborn? Not everybody wants or is able to isolate themselves and their families from the larger population. So, statistically, at least, I think it still makes sense for doctors and the CDC to push vaccines for children. That said, it is obvious that many people have been injured by vaccinations, and that they do pose a danger for some members of the population. My opinion is that vaccines should be required for virtually all school age children, but that they should also be studied more, reformulated for safety, and that timelines for immunizations should be revisited. I should note that I am not a doctor, chemist, statistician, or immunologist, so in terms of public safety, this entire rant is essentially meaningless.

]]> By: Susan http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-204843 Susan Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:21:45 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-204843 my dad is a pediatrician who had so many parents deciding that they didn't want to vaccinate that he started requiring them to sign a release form that they wouldn't hold him responsible if their kids contracted these diseases... amazing how many didn't want to sign! also, my 11 yo brought home whooping cough from school... we have all been sick since the end of sept... there is nothing you can do for whooping cough but try and prevent the spread of it! This is a HORRIBLE disease that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I cracked a rib and threw up (from coughing) about 10-15 times a night for nearly 3 weeks! My son's booster was going to be in January. driving your kids around in a car is far more dangerous than ANY vaccine. And yes, I did my own research before my son was born. He was breastfeed for almost 2 years and at the age of nearly 12, he has only had antibiotics twice. my dad is a pediatrician who had so many parents deciding that they didn’t want to vaccinate that he started requiring them to sign a release form that they wouldn’t hold him responsible if their kids contracted these diseases… amazing how many didn’t want to sign!

also, my 11 yo brought home whooping cough from school… we have all been sick since the end of sept… there is nothing you can do for whooping cough but try and prevent the spread of it! This is a HORRIBLE disease that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I cracked a rib and threw up (from coughing) about 10-15 times a night for nearly 3 weeks! My son’s booster was going to be in January.

driving your kids around in a car is far more dangerous than ANY vaccine. And yes, I did my own research before my son was born. He was breastfeed for almost 2 years and at the age of nearly 12, he has only had antibiotics twice.

]]> By: L.J. http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-204494 L.J. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:05:42 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-204494 It seems like celebs are trying to desperately outdo one another to see who can come up with the most OUTRAGEOUS names for their kids. Peanut really does take the cake, though. Sorry, just my observation within the past year. It seems like celebs are trying to desperately outdo one another to see who can come up with the most OUTRAGEOUS names for their kids. Peanut really does take the cake, though. Sorry, just my observation within the past year.

]]> By: ParisApril http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-203849 ParisApril Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:37:09 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-203849 Yea Ingo AKA Jasper Jax(and partner). Letting the child/adult/person decide how and what to do to their own body. What a wonderful idea! Yea Ingo AKA Jasper Jax(and partner).

Letting the child/adult/person decide how and what to do to their own body. What a wonderful idea!

]]> By: Natalie W http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-203808 Natalie W Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:14:08 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-203808 Seconding Susan's comment... There is middle ground here--the vaccine debate doesn't have to be all-or-nothing. You can still vaccinate your child while significantly reducing the likelihood of an adverse reaction! (1) Good research will tell you whether or not your child is in a risk category for an adverse reaction to a particular vaccine. (2) Administering vaccines one at a time instead of several at a time reduces the buildup of extra toxins like aluminum. (3) Waiting just a few extra months to begin the vaccines gives your child that much extra time to build up a strong immune system to handle it. And in the case of vaccines like Hep B, if the mother knows for sure she doesn't have it, that vax can wait till they're MUCH older--it's only administered at birth to protect babies of mothers who don't know they have it. Most importantly, drug companies need to be pressured to work at developing safer versions of vaccines! It shouldn't take another Rotavirus vaccine crisis resulting in many deaths to force a company to develop a safer version--they should be working on that constantly. Thimerosal is mostly eliminated, but not entirely yet--why not? That should be a huge priority for the drug companies, but I don't really think it is. Seconding Susan’s comment… There is middle ground here–the vaccine debate doesn’t have to be all-or-nothing. You can still vaccinate your child while significantly reducing the likelihood of an adverse reaction! (1) Good research will tell you whether or not your child is in a risk category for an adverse reaction to a particular vaccine. (2) Administering vaccines one at a time instead of several at a time reduces the buildup of extra toxins like aluminum. (3) Waiting just a few extra months to begin the vaccines gives your child that much extra time to build up a strong immune system to handle it. And in the case of vaccines like Hep B, if the mother knows for sure she doesn’t have it, that vax can wait till they’re MUCH older–it’s only administered at birth to protect babies of mothers who don’t know they have it.

Most importantly, drug companies need to be pressured to work at developing safer versions of vaccines! It shouldn’t take another Rotavirus vaccine crisis resulting in many deaths to force a company to develop a safer version–they should be working on that constantly. Thimerosal is mostly eliminated, but not entirely yet–why not? That should be a huge priority for the drug companies, but I don’t really think it is.

]]> By: BEJJ http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-203375 BEJJ Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:04:23 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-203375 They sound very AP, I'm glad they are! They sound very AP, I’m glad they are!

]]> By: CelebBabyLover http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-203232 CelebBabyLover Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:26:38 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-203232 emily- I think the vaccine being referred to was actually the Hepatitis B one. Hepatitis B, though it can be transmitted in multiple ways, is most commonly transferred through sexual contact, and thus is considered an STD by some people. There is actually a very good reason for that vaccine. I'm not sure, but I think it has to with the fact that a lot of people are "carriers", that is, they have the Heptatis B virus, but exhibit no symptoms. So a woman could have the virus and not even know it, and end up passing it to her baby during childbirth. My understanding is that the Heptatis B Vaccine is done for a similar reason that all babies get special eyedrops at birth to prevent against Gonoreah: Better safe than sorry! emily- I think the vaccine being referred to was actually the Hepatitis B one. Hepatitis B, though it can be transmitted in multiple ways, is most commonly transferred through sexual contact, and thus is considered an STD by some people.

There is actually a very good reason for that vaccine. I’m not sure, but I think it has to with the fact that a lot of people are “carriers”, that is, they have the Heptatis B virus, but exhibit no symptoms. So a woman could have the virus and not even know it, and end up passing it to her baby during childbirth. My understanding is that the Heptatis B Vaccine is done for a similar reason that all babies get special eyedrops at birth to prevent against Gonoreah: Better safe than sorry!

]]> By: Anna http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-203190 Anna Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:10:20 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-203190 He's not actually saying no to vaccines right? He says he's delaying them. Although I do understand that people have a fear of them, they should also realize that there is no proof that vaccines cause autism. Also, people seem to forget that many children died from illnesses that are now almost completely wiped out in the the developed world because of vaccines. I think many people do not realize what a disease like polio can do to a child. Because they haven't seen the destruction these illnesses can do they have forgotten how serious they are. He’s not actually saying no to vaccines right? He says he’s delaying them.

Although I do understand that people have a fear of them, they should also realize that there is no proof that vaccines cause autism. Also, people seem to forget that many children died from illnesses that are now almost completely wiped out in the the developed world because of vaccines.

I think many people do not realize what a disease like polio can do to a child. Because they haven’t seen the destruction these illnesses can do they have forgotten how serious they are.

]]> By: Michelle http://celebrity-babies.com/2008/12/31/ingo-rademacher-talks-names-labor-vaccines-and-breast-milk/#comment-203016 Michelle Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:33:11 +0000 http://celebrity-babies.com/?p=23194#comment-203016 YEA for bringing homebirth out in the limelight and for someone like this to say NO to vaccines. Glad it's not just us anymore..LOL. YEA for bringing homebirth out in the limelight and for someone like this to say NO to vaccines. Glad it’s not just us anymore..LOL.

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